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An Ontario woman has filed a complaint with Human Rights Tribunal of Ontario after being told by several hotels that she would not be allowed to swim topless in their pool. According to the complainant’s lawyer, Marie-Pier Dupont, her client prefers to swim topless and felt she was being discriminated against because of her gender. So, should hotels allow women to swim topless?
The details of the complaint have not been made public yet. According to reports, the complaint mentions a water park and several hotel brands. At least one hotel, Ramada Cornwall, has confirmed that they received an email asking if the guest could swim topless. The hotel initially said no but changed their policy after consulting a lawyer.
Related facts/laws:
- According to the Ontario Human Rights Code, Section 1. Every person has a right to equal treatment with respect to services, goods and facilities, without discrimination because of race, ancestry, place of origin, colour, ethnic origin, citizenship, creed, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, gender expression, age, marital status, family status or disability. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.19, s. 1; 1999, c. 6, s. 28 (1); 2001, c. 32, s. 27 (1); 2005, c. 5, s. 32 (1); 2012, c. 7, s. 1.
- In 1996, the Ontario Court of Appeal made it legal for women in Ontario to be topless in public.
My take on the matter
Fact of the matter is, as a man I can jump into any hotel pool bare chested while most women would not. The argument that “other patrons would be offended” does not hold because even a ‘burkini‘ can offend people. That it is legal for women in Ontario to be topless in public, has not prompted every woman to walk the streets topless. Likewise, a woman choosing to swim topless will not radically change how other women swim in hotel pools. This case runs along the lines of gender equality and how we skew our perception of certain body parts based on gender.
Link to CBC report on the story is here.
Where do you stand on this? Should hotels allow women to swim topless?
10 comments
i don’t care of the age as long as they are over 18. if i don’t like the way they look i won’t look but i never would catorize based on age or anything because i have seen tits on a 41 yr old and they look great but some in their 20’s that are a member of the itty bitty titty committee but my point is don’t like don’t look. actually they aren’t going toppless to land some dude or to flirt. many like it but staring for one is uncomfortable to anyone and 2nd stuff like that is what makes people relate it with being dirty when it’s not. big deal it’s boobs. I would never make a lady feel unfortable and make myself look like i never seen a set by staring, or saying someone over a certain age or if your small boobs or big boobs it’s a issue. nobody was asked that nor do we have the right to pick someone a part. thank God its not bottomless and males and woman would say if this and that its nasty. anyway if the facility would allow and there may be laws that allows a woman to remove her top since men can take theirs off and laws in 2022 may be in place where the pool has no say or we will have to wear shirts. anyway i wouldn’t want to bring a child in there. since boys especially are curious and would defin be staring and not seeing it as adults would. i was 10/12yrs old and i know if i had been in a place like that i would of been in heaven and i was that age when it was the 1980’s and films like porkys and so on wear great to watch so i know how i would of been in there at that age. anyway 18 and above, no discrimation what’s so ever. age, weight, race, size whatever. Its wrong to ever judge anyone on their appearance and even more so when they never asked our opinion. we are defin not anyone to stick a description on what can and can’t. she isn’t toppless trying to impress me or anyone else. I just believe if they pushed it actually anywhere they could and by law be protected or possibly file a suit for discrimination and with all that’s on the news they would most likely win or settle. guys would have to start covering up . nipples are nipples and seen many men with bigger boobs so if they pushed it they could get it. i have no issue at all with it. I wouldn’t take my kids there but i have no issue at all with it. i would go with myself and my wife and i told her i have no insecurities, no issues with being toppless even though she has never and she has no reason to feel embarrassed at all. but she hasn’t. i’m nobody to tell someone else they can’t or it’s wrong because i wouldn’t call it wrong. if she is ok with it, and her spouse or partner doenst have a issue and it’s not a problem between them thats all that matters.
yes, a place should note that it’s allowed due to children but if the place makes it known that it’s allowed i don’t see any issue with being topless around a pool. big deal. anyone knows what they look like, it’s not a secret or something nobody has seen. i really don’t see a issue or am i bothered by it. i don’t stare and i would never make someone feel uncomfortable. i have my wife that i stare at. Size JJ and natural and they hurt her back. anyway i really don’t see the issue but should be made known by the facility to others that like to believe they were delivered by a snork and topples is evil which is not but behind closed doors have the xxx collection that nobody at church know they have. make known for that type of people that look down on everyone else and for children. because when i was 12 i would of snuck in back in 1987 if i could of. i was a well advanced child in the best decade ever. the 80’s.
Depends on the tits. And the age. Anyone broads over 40, no. Only those with firm, perky tits allowed. Old and droopy, sagging tits, no way! ( Flight attendants take note, we don’t want you topless at the hotel pools on your layovers ). The rest can go elsewhere.
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We make far too big of a deal of women showing any type of skin… ankles, legs, boobs, or whatever… yet men can wear anything we want. I say #freethenipple! FYI – for all you horndogs out there, be careful what you wish for. It won’t be just young, fit women straight from the pages of Playboy that will be topless.
Couldn’t agree more! Sexism and downright degrading attitude towards women is what I have read so far. Thanks for sharing Lee..Cheers!
Enough with the PC blog post.
Most men would support women being topless at the hotel pool 🙂
Legally I’m not sure most hotels could refuse this actually depending the local laws.
As for women who want to be at the pool topless, why would you want to flaunt your breasts in public?Sometimes less is more.Sure most men want to see them but if they are just out there to view then the mystery is gone.
Another scammer looking for a payout
Should be decided on a case by case basis. Is she hot? Then of course.
I heard the case was dismissed due to insufficient evidence